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total reduction in the deficit you can imagine if the democrats and republicans were going to say okay let's make a deal they might say let's do 50/50 taxes and spending. if we were to do that we would be watching -- matching all the failed consolidations. people who tried to raise taxes kill the economy they don't get the revenue they thought and don't reduce the deficit. we need to reduce spending a lot if we want to get ahead of this curve. >> dana: a country that did it right and wrong? >> finland, finland, a country in the 90s that it right. what they did they reduced spending by 105% and cut taxes when they did it and this successful consolidation. failed consolidations are a dime a dozen. we are living through one. çñ 70% taxes. you wonder why greece keeps

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