spectator. or bringing a child. people bring a 7, 8 or 10-year-old kid, a parent to watchdogs fighting or roosters fighting. >> greta: in your new book, i didn't realize you got involved in dogfighting at age eight. i never heard of it until your case. >> in the community i group up in it was prevalent. it was something i was exposed to a lot of the older guys exposed myself and others to it. it was just something that we learned to do. i didn't know whether it was right or wrong. we were just involved and never got any type of indication whether it was the right thing or wrong thing to do. >> greta: you guys seem like an unlikely duo based on your history if you read the book, you stand you met him first in prison. >> mike reached out through some of his people and said he
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