says this comes as a surprise. listen: >> the fbi feels like they've got enough evidence, you know, but i would have never suspected it from him. >> reporter: so defendants thomas, defendant crump and the other two defendants, 66-year-old ray adams and 67-year-old dan roberts are scheduled to make their initial appearances before a federal magistrate this afternoon martha. martha: a lot of shock over this. i know one of these men served in the navy for 30 years, his wife says there's no way she believes he would ever be involved in something like this. so how did the feds catch on to all of this? >> >> reporter: yeah, one served in the navy according to his wife, and at least two of the defendants worked for either federal agencies or at least federal government contractors. so it's a bizarre case. investigators say that an fbi informant was able to infiltrate this organization and even record meetings. now, with the exception of frederick thomas, who lived in cleveland, georgia, the defendants lived in toccoa,