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and the current narrative about progress misses the opportunity to connect and point forward. what carville talks about is having empathy. he worked for bill clinton. is barack obama capable of that empathy. >> he's very disconnected from the ordinary people and the congress. this is a guy who basically takes his own counsel and most of the positions that he's taken have been his own positions. now he has to go out and defend them. it's not the campaign he'd like to run but at the same time there aren't policies or successes that he can go out and make his case in the country with. bill: could he be effective or not. >> there is no question he will give some great speeches and inspire his base. whether he'll convince enough to give him a majority i don't think so. bill:ed rollins, thank you for your time. seven minutes past the hour. martha: we are awaiting a verdict in the roger clemens retrial. closing arguments yesterday in

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