telephone. about 60,000 of them and then they extrapolate from there. i have got to tell you a lot of these folks, in fact, about half were part timers. normally when we think about job creation, we don't count the part timers. >> very interesting. some of those jobs i also read were temporary seasonal jobs as well. they are already building up for the retail season. let me ask you this, what do you say to those people who question whether or not these numbers are legit. >> a lot of people are saying that the government is i can cooking the books here. let me tell you they get those kind of accusations all the time. here is the deal. the only number that really counts in this report is the 114,000 number. that matches what wall street expected in what with what most believe happen. the household number i mentioned before, the big 800,000 number, it has a margin error of 400,000. so it could be off by half. so big difference, big debates going on with these numbers tonight, harris. >> harris: real quickly you mentioned how wall street was anticipating. we had such a mixed review.