we trust mitt romney? he's laying out a number of issues, winning the debate stylistically and jim lehrer did not moderate. those are the facts as we know it. if you're channinging the plan, let knauss that. >> i find is fascinating, your guy has been president for four years. >> sure. >> and the conversation is trying to get specifics from him. mitt romney just a couple of weeks ago started getting even the national security briefings. here you've got a man who's got a book with 59 points about what he wants to do and the argument is between the regular civilian guy who is a business man about what's going to do to save the country and a president who's been in the office for four years, and we're still trying-- even we still want specifics from the president of the united states. and that's what americans are realizing. mitt romney showed them that he can be president, he's a viable alternative, and until you get into that office, which mom any does not have that benefit, you're going to have to-- and who is going to be in the senate helping to run the