look around. do i want to be an episcopalian? i do want to be a baptist? do i want to go and be a catholic? we go and pick the church. if the government were to say hey you know what? we'll put up that roman catholic thing in providence, rhode island then they would be right. that would be -- >> -- it's about more than that. this is about a desire on the part of not just atheists of america but this is a very powerful group of elite who are very uncomfortable and very hostile to conservative christianity. it's mostly that right? conservative christians. >> bill: when he conflated the thing to illegal immigration and gay marriage you saw that. >> it's a whole pant plea of issues. it's marriage, it's abortion. those two issues are really at the core of the hostility and obviously the push back against what started in the 60's as a free love generation to everything else that followed and every debate we have had whether it's the contraceptive debate or government mandated abortions