miners out there who care, but for very much of the country, cheap or relatively cheap by western standards, electricity is dependent on coal and the energy industry says without this, energy costs for everybody are going to go up and the reliability of america's energy grid that the power does that you don't get brownouts and everybody cranks the air conditioning up is dependent on coal. so everybody has a stake in the game to that degree. but the other thing is this, and you said that congress blocked the president's global warming strategy and that's true. democrats in congress blocked the president's global warming strategy in his first term when senate democrats held sway. the president knows this is a political loser for him and for democrats that he hopes are successful in the mid term elections and so he's going to use the epa to try to push this stuff through. mccarthy-- i'm sorry. >> megyn: he has a couple of ways to go about this and the crackdown on climate change and all that is controversial, not everybody believes it's a real issue and not everybody