i tell people to throw the rope, don't get in the water and treat themselves. there is very little that you can do for an addict if they are hell bent on destroying themselves and clearly michael was on that trajectory. >> geraldo: do you consider him a classic addict? >> i didn't know him. i mean everything that i hear about him or read about him shows me the signs that, indeed, he was. i understand it from the life that he had to be honest with you to medicate. what it is about is the underlying causes and conditions. what he had to live with as a human being. clearly he was tortured. clearly he was in pain. it is unfortunate that we have to talk about this after he is dead. >> geraldo: what about the con is september that he is as diane pointed out a grown man, 50-year-old man, you know, the company's liability be damned. here is a guy that should have taken care of himself. >> this is a brain illness.