something this complex it's estimated that the web site is 500 million lines of code. windows operating system is 50 to 80 million lines of codes which is one of the most complex. six times more complex. to fix something like that is going to be near impossible in the short time frame. >> don't you want to strangle yourself when you hear the government say this is all going to be 80% fixed by november? i mean, if you can log on, but you are so vulnerable to the security. i mean, that is just a lie that it works at that point. >> unfortunate. the site could have been built in a way that didn't have all these exposures. my testimony on capitol hill today. some of the testimony was well, other web sites get hacked so why are we any different? and if we are at that point and debating that? then we have lost our motive around security around security hasn't done job against those issues. we can protect against hackers and we owe it to americans to protect this infrastructure and data that's on it. it's our personal