been poorly managed, all right? >> no, bill goes back 100 years. >> come on, counselor, look. one more thing and i will give you 30 seconds to wrap it up. do you basically here trying to rewrite the constitution because it's clear that every american has to be treated the same way. no one group elevated no matter how much injustice has been done to that group. last word. >> thank you very much. bill, every other group is getting special programs. in fact, you are advocating for poor students. what you are failing to do is recognize race and what you are doing is taking away from black and latino students the right to get programs that will make it possible for them to go to school. that's a new -- that's not equality. >> all right, counselor. thank you very much for coming on. next on the rundown, "new york times" writes president obama has a manhood problem. james carville will react.