disbelief. what do you mean you have an american? yes, we want him. so they paid some ransom to the locals who grabbed him. we did find the ransom. we went to one of the houses. we were risking ourselves, we're not going to fly right up to a dangerous house and be out front knocking on the door. but we were basically doing that at this point trying to get an american back. >> that raises the question should we be willing the way he deserted, seeking out the taliban, everybody knew the circumstances, the white house didn't want to hear from the guys on the ground what had actually happened. they were frustrated as could be because as you pointed out all operations stopped. so the question is, is that the right thing to do? was this handled properly? >> i think in the beginning it was simply because we knew he deserted but there's a chance he didn't. we got to get our guys back. >> a chance he has ptsd. >> something happened or he was on the operating post and maybe he got tricked by some locals. we confirmed later he in fact walked off skbl walked off, sent his stuff home. and the locals on radio saying