mike huckabee i think could be a factor. he has a very strong base social conservative base. i think all together everybody who has gotten insofar, is kind of an anti-establishment elite candidate. and the more there are of those kinds of candidates and the more they split the anti-establishment vote is probably better for jeb bush. >> interesting. agree? >> yeah i think that's probably right. the carly fiorina clip that you played shows what we expect from the candidacy. she's framing herself as the chief antagonist critic. she did that up in her speech and she's doing it here in her release announcement. ben carson is an interesting figure. you know his virtual is his vice in this respect. he isn't a politician as he makes clear. usually that's a good thing. i think people sitting at home and looking at what washington has done to the country over the past several decades like the idea of somebody who is not a