folks willing to give up information in. ultimately el chapo's vanity gave him away. they tried to meet him in remote location of durango state, six hours from where he was eventually captured. sean penn didn't think there was anybody tracking him but there were eyes on him. there likely were. to contact el cheap -- el chapo he had to go through a famous mexican actress. that is when human intelligence turns into signals intelligence and they monitor an area. they knew el chapo was there and they would raid him after the interview. there were women and children they didn't. turns out after that they collaborated with one of the folks that built the tunnel to get information where he might be. that is where the second raid occurred where they ultimately got him. a lot of humans involved. bill: pete, you look at this on the face, you escape a couple of times, you can't do that unless you have people on the inside helping you. that goes to the level of
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