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a way to survive. no way to work. >> reporter: el chapo speaking while on the run. physic follow up questions to a face-to-face meeting he had with penn in october. >> translator: all i do is defend myself. nothing more. i do not start looking for trouble. >> reporter: this photo of the two taken three months after the drug kingpin escaped out of a maximum security prison in central mexico. mexican officials want to question the hollywood a-lister along with this famous mexican actress, kate del castillo. she's credited with linking penn with the fugitive. penn writing, i take no pride in keeping secrets that may be perceived as protecting criminals. guzman's desire to talk to the actors about a biopick of his life could have been the slipup that led to his capture. castillo forging a friendship with el chapo after a tweet in 2012.
folks willing to give up information in. ultimately el chapo's vanity gave him away. they tried to meet him in remote location of durango state, six hours from where he was eventually captured. sean penn didn't think there was anybody tracking him but there were eyes on him. there likely were. to contact el cheap -- el chapo he had to go through a famous mexican actress. that is when human intelligence turns into signals intelligence and they monitor an area. they knew el chapo was there and they would raid him after the interview. there were women and children they didn't. turns out after that they collaborated with one of the folks that built the tunnel to get information where he might be. that is where the second raid occurred where they ultimately got him. a lot of humans involved. bill: pete, you look at this on the face, you escape a couple of times, you can't do that unless you have people on the inside helping you. that goes to the level of
apparat tus to call on to get votes out and people are tem tepid in their support. the same thing hillary's facingen is that going to show up in the number of people that get out and vote? we don't know but that's a concern in her campaign. >> david gergen, stay with me. we'll be back with more from david in a minute. the white house promising unconventional speech for the president when you hear is final state of the union tuesday night. >> i don't think i have ever been more optimistic about a year ahead than i am right now. >> what the president is planning. is he proving he's not a lame duck? an american woman mysterious found dead in her apartment. what her boyfriend just told cnn. the secret meeting between the infamous drug kingpin el chapo and sean penn. the famous mexican actress played in the deal. stay with us, you're watching cnn.
question after so many hours of face to face. let's go to vitamin -- cnn's nick valencia outside the prison where guzman is being held. how did they connect? >> reporter: it's remarkable as rare. the first interview el chapo has given was to a celebrity. sean penn was able to connect after an interview was brokered between him and a famous mexican actress here. it reportedly took place three months after the escape of el chapo from the prison behind me. it took place in an undisclosed place in mexico. you talk about the follow up questions there. we have a chunk of interview we would like to play for you that was released last night on rollingstone.com. >> how did you get involved in
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