management, 22 million people had their personal information hacked and obama never said a word. didn't kick out any diplomats. no sanctions. what does that tell you? >> what that tells us is gross negligence on the part of the government with regard to a clear and present danger. we should have known about it going back to 2003, 2004. hacking now is enormous. i believe it's the head of the fbi that said that american corporations are in 2 categories: those that have been hacked and know about it and those that have been hacked and don't know about it yet. some of these hackings went on for a year or two or three years before they were caught. because the companies didn't bring in the software experts at