already a divergent from what republican leaders have been talking about, having universal access to healthcare, not necessarily universal coverage. trying to reign in government involvement in healthcare, but it sounds like the president-elect wants to have a lot of government involvement in healthcare. so it will be -- remains to be seen how he will cover everybody. >> shepard: conservatives have been against that idea in concept over time. is anyone changing his or her mind or that or is opposition boili boiling? >> we'll see. donald trump made clear that he plans to use twitter as a governing tool and just the same way as his tweets and from democrats as well, sort of embarrassed congressional leaders into backing off of a plan, for example, to sort of nix the congressional ethics office. they backed off that amid backlash. donald trump took credit for that. he said i'll do the same thing