military exercises with south korea. that is a false equivalency. our joint military exercises are perfectly legal, take place in south korean territory. harris: every year. >> where as the actions of north korea are illegal in the world stage and the u.n. roundry condemns it. harris: that's where there are sanctions against them. that's why we know it's illegal because we've voted on that, basically. for anybody who happened to miss the nuance of all of this as you move on, as you bring up china and japan mentioned there too, there's a lot in play here and now we're starting to understand, maybe, why president trump chose some of the people he did. speak quickly about the choice of tillerson now that he's in the job. >> tillerson understands what it's like to sit down in a room with world leaders, essentially by running exxon, he was running a private country if you look at size of it and the scope. he knows how to negotiate deals on the highest of diplomatic levels. this isn't somebody running a