about the gridlock. they see it every day. the traffic is brutal. they'll know which projects are good. people in washington log rolling. >> not real log rolling. probably feels like real log rolling. >> you'll join me tonight. my big issue is with states like new jersey, california and illinois who have so many unf d unfunded liability issues, how are they going to -- these states are cash strapped. you'll see states where residents won't claim the deductions that they were going to. how will they raise 8 billion dollars when they have no money? >> here's what i would say. you guys -- how much does it cost to go over the bridges in new york. it is unbelievable but yet the