>> martha: i do think that this makes a lot of people think twice about whether they want t to. >> who would want to do this in light of this hearing? here is this distinguished judge, comes before this panel today, in which three members have already said that the burden of proof is on him. it not only that, so has their leader. chuck schumer. who would want to face that? plus the stuff that was coming out last night, all out of left field. we've got characters like michael avenatti. it taken seriously by democrats. who would want to do that? i must say, i can't imagine. and i think it's a very serious problem. the poison in our politics will unmistakably keep people from wanting to serve. >> bret: president trump speaks in a different way, but the thoughts about "guilty until proven innocent," that resonates in this country.