program. they came anyway, challenged them, and they were released. because they were released, our government blinked first, that's what gave rise to the new caravan. unless we take the proper steps, to ensure that when somebody comes here and asks for asylum we hold them in custody pending their asylum determination, they're going continue to come. they ultimately know that they're going to be released into the united states. >> to that point, and president trump saying just moments ago, that absolutely will not happen this time, they are not, quote, doing release. instead they will build tent cities and other actions to make sure they don't make this mistake again. do you think it's possible, i know that kind of manpower they're talking about, programs it can be done. is this something that would help you, the border patrol agents? >> well, it would. but you're going to have to look at certain cases. two days ago, commissioner macklin explained that we're going on process the individuals