yes, people in this country do t pray, and to say that laws will solve this, no, the transformation of hearts will solve this. >> mike, listen, i'm not going to take morality lessons from a man who spent his entire life denying me the right to marry, denying me the right to serve in the military, denying me the right as a gay man to even exist, you would send me into conversion therapy. put that aside, tony the fact is, what we need and what the majority of americans support are gun laws -- law that is make them harder to get. >> talk to rahm emanuel about that in chicago. >> that's what americans want. >>, no it's not. >> let me give you the last word. because we're going to run out of time. let me interrupt you, because tony, you've kind of come at him and he's got a right to round. tony, take the last word. >> look, there is a moral