really faced with these same issues with our student body where people feel unsafe and, it's frankly, there is no justification for that when we're lawyers being trained on the rule of law being trained on, you know, having -- knowing both sides of an issue. so, to me, why would we want to limit opportunity. we are not forcing students to extern with ice that opportunity should be available for students to pursue in law enforcement. they are being shut out. it's not fair. pete: not a mandatory externship. you can if you want to. we have some stats about ice's legal team. they have 1200 attorneys. 300 support staff. covered over 900,000 hearings in 2017. turns out immigration and immigration law is a big practice. our government is involved in it. yet, the first statement i read i'm stuck on it. your school says no, you are trained to be a peacemaker. i thought you were being