the media aligned with both sides tends to get out in front of facts here. i think collusion is a bad word because collusion is not a legal word. you and i sitting here, colluding for a television show, it doesn't mean anything. conspiracy to violate the criminal laws. there is no question in anybody's mind that the russiane violated criminal laws on election interference. computer hacks, illegal foreign expenditures, no question those were criminal violations. the question has always beeno whether trump or those around him conspired with the russians on those two criminal actions. and i've said on this program before, i've said all year, that there is no evidence of that. >> tucker: this is what is hard for me.e. they're always going to be fringes of both parties, you pointed that out and i agree withrd you. i'm one of the few people -- i'm not always jumping on maxine waters, because i don't think she is a serious person, actually, she is an outlier. i think the chairman of the