richer and the poor getting poorer. when you hear that kind of stuff, do you think come on, guys? >> i think come on, folks. the reality is that most persons are experiencing is that the economy is good. just look at the -- it's not perfect. no economy ever has been. are the rich getting richer? yes. the fact that the middle class and the poor are doing better too. they're getting jobs they didn't get before. >> and you see the surveys and not every american feels that way. that's what democrats are pouncing on. and maybe given the closeness in the polls, the battleground states, maybe it's not registering. what do you think? >> i think generally people are pleased with the economy. the reason and the battleground polls, i believe the president is not doing well is that for the moment and maybe it's not going to change, but for now, he's lost the support of