>> we don't know what damage may have been done. at the real possibility that this is a time with the 25th amendment needs to be consider considered. >> laura: it david, well they stop at nothing to remove trump if they could from even the ballot at this point? >> it's insane. she's literally talking about an emergency measure to try to remove the standing president of the united states. she was asked about it by a reporter, said i want talk about it right now i'll talk to you about it tomorrow. at least it's not after election like joe biden, but this is foolishness. we want to for a party that supposed to be 14 points up in these national polls, they are acting -- there's a lot of desperation out there. very interesting. wonderful to see both of you, thank you so much. now that the commission on presidential race has put the idea of a virtual debate out