last night in kentucky, they got a lot of help from their running mates. rob, paula. back to you. >> thank you, karen. as karen alluded to -- polls are tight. dead heat in virginia. obama up one in florida. doing well in ohio up by six. in colorado, romney is ahead by a point now. virginia is still tight. obama is up by five there. wisconsin up by three. so it really is -- the country watches, but really about a cluster, maybe six, eight states will make or break this race. romney made up a lot of ground since last week's debate for sure. >> i don't know if this one will move the needle. both appealed to their base really. joe biden didn't make any fatal flaws. and neither did paul ryan in this one. but, you know let everybody spin it how they want. i looked at six different polls. three gave it to biden. three gave it to paul ryan. >> it's a draw essentially. >> pretty much is a draw. >> again, i know the media's inclination, folk's inclination to pay attention to stylistic issues rather than substantive one -- the water drinking, laughing, grinning, we saw more of joe biden's teeth than his