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involved in this? >> let's be honest. the department of justice is an extension of the white house. the attorney general is an appointee of the president so in many senses this is a gut check moment for president obama. obviously he doesn't control everything that eric holder does but i would hope that president obama, who has been so hands off with so many of the state struggles not just in wisconsin but ohio, michigan, maine, and other places, would take a serious look at it. this is a time where the federal government is needed. whether joann kloppenberg is being cheated or not, whether david prosser won or not, the fact is that unless there is a federal investigation, unless the department of justice comes into wisconsin, this election will never be seen as a credible election by hundreds of thousands perhaps millions of wisconsinites. and that's just inappropriate. we need the federal intervention and the president should recognize that. >> senator larsen, what about the recall effort? i understand that the republicans are pushing hard to get rid of some of the wisconsin

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