to be a sense of unanimity about what they're doing in libya, but you yourself in kosovo came into conflict with a very well-decorated american general, general wesley clarkson, and it's said by him in his book that you said, i'm not prepared to follow you into a third world war. did you say that? and was that an example of a rare conflict between the u.s. and uk military leadership? >> no, no, absolutely not. i think the first thing to do is to put national labels absolutely to one side here. they had nothing to do with the difficulty at that time which was a professional military disagreement on how to handle a situation which had big political overtones and some military, but it was a professional disagreement. i went into it with a heavy heart. one is not brought up in the military of any nation to take