medicare. take a listen to this and i have a question for you on the back side. >> steny hoyer is saying medicare must be on the table for discussions about deficit cutting. do democrats have a clear message that they will protect medicare? >> just reflect back just a few months ago. we saved one-half trillion dollars in our health care plan as it relates to medicare. >> sir, there's people out there who would say that the only way republicans can rescue the ryan budget is for ryan to actually even run for president. is that something you would agree with when -- right now at this point in time? it's really about saving face? >> well, i think in fairness to the congressman ryan, he has brought forth a very bold idea which represents what republicans in my view are about. tax breaks for billionaires, no cuts in military despite the fact we've tripled our defense budget since 1997. doing away with medicare as we know it and massive cuts for