high and they're engaging, and i think there's going to be a huge response from the middle of america. and what they want is the parties working together. they want everybody at the table, everything on the table, and they know it will take big, bold solutions and erybody's going to have to sacrifice. >> it's interesting, doris, one of the applause lines that mitt romney had that we played earlier was the idhat we got a lot of government lifers, a lot of people who have been in government a long time. they're not necessarily ones to lead us out of this mess, because the sparks, this is not something you said, but this is something you did, t it's the communication -- we know what this mean -- is going on, not in government, unfornately, because the penalties are just toohigh for that sort of spark creation. that seems to be a factor. >> i mean, i think there's something to that. there's something about a bureaucratic mtality, when you've been in these big buildings in washington for a ng period of time, you've got tons of regulations going on top of you, th you can't think imaginatively, but we have to remember, government is not just that. government, as i said today,is people working together