whoever. we want to create jobs, we don't want to take things from each other. >> absolutely. i want to challenge the notion that the current job training system has harmed people. i think there were some bad experiences that no longer happen. but the question is whether we have a job training system that can deliver for the 10 million people or so who are unemployed and help them get into the labor force. and it's got to be a system that reflects the diversity of needs of those people who need training and the diversity and needs of employers. you suggested that large employers with jobs already, they would actually invest in the training of their workers. but, in fact, all the research indicates that less than 10% of employer job training money is spent on their entry-level workers. so that means we have a gap between the people walking in and their skills and what the employer needs. and that's what the job training system has to effectively fill. >> go ahead, james. >> i wonder if i can get back -- mrs. cooper mentioned there's
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