and there are people who benefit because you don't have a job or home or health care. we need to name those people, those war profiteers who are making 10, 20, 30 million dollars while you don't have a job. we need to name people like murdoch. we need to name the bankers and the wall street folks and connect the dots for people. this is a system. this is an organized system. and people are paying a terrible price. and it's thrilling to see their courage and their guts and their honesty in throwing their bodies out there and saying day after day, damn it, no more. >> and fox news obviously throwing a concerted effort to disparage the movement and also to degrade it and label it things that it simply is not. is that going to strengthen the movement in your opinion? >> well, if we listened to fox, ed, i think we'd all be in a lot of trouble. i think the movement's going to be strengthened because it's talking about basic and profound truths. >> yeah. >> it's talking about the fact that what people instinctively understand. 1%.