>> what we do is, number one, we say that corporations aren't people. it's clear to anyone who looks at it that the framers of the constitution never intended to give them the rights that individuals have. number two, congress has the ability to regulate corporations. they can't claim constitutional defended rights to protect them against the public interest. and number three, for-profit corporations cannot spend their money in our elections. >> but what about this -- because i've seen in this large corporations where i'll pay -- so you're a big shot executive at big shot company one, two, three. i'm going to pay you $30 million, but i'm going to pay you $30 million under the understanding that you personally will spend that $30 million on politicians. it won't -- big shot corporation one, two, three will never be seen. in other words, why try to control the flow of money and who's what and why not simply say, or go with what i call the ncaa rules, which is if you take money if a private source of any kind, a union, a corporation, your mother, i don't care,
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