we do it by repairing the american infrastructure, going in a five or ten-year program, taking returning vets, taking unemployed people, training them to be laborerers, et cetera, getting people back to work, a massive infrastructure repair program which the country needs anyway for its competitiveness. >> i agree. >> for its safety. that's the way to do it. >> i'm so with you. thank you, senator. thank you, governor rendell for coming up. up again, barney frank is end is his career in congress. we'll have an exit interview with him. we'll ask him what he wants to get off his chest. i want to hear him say something. not running for re-election. no worries about the voters now. we want to hear from barney frank from his heart. this is "hardball," coming up on msnbc. change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence.