>> because they were the ones who could go to the schools particularly in the south. >> ward connerly, the litigant in most of these cases, fighting a lot of propositions in california and elsewhere, he has fought that and the university of california got rid of legacies in 2000 thanks to that. at least he's consistent about that. but i think you can principally oppose affirmative action -- where racism still exists in this country. i would argue it's more prejudice than racism on a day-to-day basis. people just put -- you've been talking about this all day -- people in boxes and can't imagine you outside of the box. it's the jeremy lin story on some level. people couldn't imagine that dude being a point guard. >> right. an asian harvard man being the lin sanity of new york. no nona, you wrote something very useful this week. >> hearing all of this, we're assuming that affirmative action is just about discrimination,