of '64 up for a vote in the south. it would probably be defeated. and if you believe in the south, we ought to be putting people's rights up for popular vote? >> so re rented, let me get you in here. you say a lot of people say the president is worried about losing the african-american churchgoers in states like yours. you don't speak for all black people but let me get your thoughts on when you hear people make that downer argument. >> we are having a slight technical difficulty but i can hear you well. there is an add element we need to discuss in this. that is parts of what has happened is we've been duped by the right to ask the wrong questions. when you ask people what do you feel about same sex marriage, you are asking a religious question that should not be a constitutional issue because we have the freedom of religion. what we have found is when you connect the dots and you show people who is behind this family