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jamie dimon or held of wells fargo or head of bank of america. they clearly are far more prepared to answer the questions than the people asking the questions are to ask the questions. supply the questions by staff members. they are not bankers. they have a peripheral knowledge of the financial services industry. so jamie dimon, it's a home run for him. the larger point, joe, though, i would think, is that, you know, these hearings are teed up for publicity, for the members on both sides of the aisles, republican and democrat, and yet out in the country, back to what al hunt and the panel was talking about, i mean, we're looking at a bus ride here and we're trying to figure out who is going to drive the bus. is it going to be the president or is it going to be governor romney. all of this stuff is in the rearview mirror, the banking stuff. sure the volcker rule is important to a certain extent, no doubt about that, but people want to know, where are we going? where are you going to take us? that's the question that's out there in the country. >> you know the other question

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