asia and the middle east. it's part of our culture now. and to single them out as dangerous the way this character has done, this congresswoman. and i think ed rollins has a point. this is something that has to be addressed on the floor of the house. she has to say i take this back. you have any thoughts on this, joan? >> well, yes. i do think they need to denounce it on the floor of the house. i don't know who he's referring to, by trent franks he's a birther. louis goemer is crazy. there are crazy people joining her. so it's easy because she is a little bit of a crack pot, i said it, to demonize her. but she's got company. but i also think this works because the president has muslim family members, step family members and that this is part of a code about this president