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next four years. is that not the truth? >> martin, you know, i'm surprised that mitt romney didn't say 14 million or 18 million or -- >> true actually. >> he picked the number completely out of a hat. the united states economy in a normal year will create, and this is not a normal year right now, about ybut in a normal yea create about 2 million new jobs. given that we are in a recovery and the recovery is picking up some speed, it's possible that we may get up to 2.5 or even 3 million new jobs per year. so mitt romney's claim of 12 million new jobs in 4 years may automatically happen regardless of who is president. this is a kind of claim that's baseless in terms of public policy. mitt romney is not coming up with any policies that are going to generate 12 million new jobs. in fact, if anything mitt romney's policies of giving a huge tax break to the very, very wealthy, cutting most of the programs that everybody else

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