no that rule. >> isn't that amazing. >> there may be one but i can't think of what it is off the top of my head. you know, obviously it was a huge night for democrats. i would say not in karl rove's defense but just as a statement of reality, karl rove didn't pick these candidates in the senate. the party picked those candidates. part of the problem in the republican party has right now as we've discussed on this show many times is that the far right of the party in the primary process controls things so you end up of the selection usually with the most conservative candidate, often extremely conservative process in the primary process so you end up with nominees that are far outside the mainstream and often uncompetitive in states like indiana or missouri where they should be more competitive. karl rove, michael is obviously right, the senate was a huge target for him, but again he didn't pick those candidates. he had to try to help candidates who were flawed in really, really deep ways, and it may be true what he says, that some of those candidates in fact would have been less competitive than