generation of leaders are and who are some leaders around for a while. seems to nee is a totally appropriate part of politics, in the republican party and my party, what happens does matter. >> i had to respond about something about me not being a sarah palin fan. those are your word, not mine. this is sarah pail inat cpac with a big gulp. i don't know what that does to advance dialogue in this country in any serious way, form or fashion and i also don't know why you know, someone like that who gets 50 and s 15 and 20 min conference be taken seriously. just showing the picture. just showing the picture. >> that's why people think she will be closer to kardashian than a politician going forward with all due respect, of course. >> we will have to leave it there. matt schlapp, richard goodstein, thank you very much. appreciate your time. >> thank you both. coming up, testimony about