growth outcomes, their stature and their weight, it affects their brain in a much deeper level. so we're starving the next generation of americans. we're willing to do that? >> it's just insane. as jeff bridges said in laurie's film. if another country was doing this to our children, we would declare war on that country. it's not just in the snap program where benefits aren't enough, but across the board is a crime. the vitter amendment, he's not interested in throwing a small handful of ex-felons off the program. one the application it will have a declaration i am not a felon, he's interested in humiliating people applying for the program and discouraging them from applying. and two, going back to the program, he's racializing the debate. >> yep. this point about humiliating the people who are recipients of