>> when issa was leaving the hearing yesterday he appeared to be looking for something. quite possibly the scandal itself. melissa, we pose the meta question. is there a there there -- here. and it seems to me that there's not a lot of there there. >> as you were speaking you said the fact that they were both tea party groups and progressive groups means that some of the president's friends were targeted. i thought yeah, but those hoe progressive groups that could be out to get the president more than the tea party. this was a ready made kind of scandal in that people dislike the irs. if you have a story about the irs doing something bad, being directed to do something bad by the white house, people aren't going to really like that. it will be less the retraction