of those led to charges. so if the background checker is doing this for the government, he was generally darnled from the navy and a couple arrest, that's not enough to disqualify an individual. >> going back to this seattle incident, you were telling me off camera you thought the paperwork just didn't seem to make it into the system and had it, he might have actually been prevented from buying that shotgun in virginia. >> certainly a possibility. that is what the attorney in seattle says, that the work was lost. so it's just one of these things. there are two parts to this, chuck. the first is there is the behavior of violence issue in the workplace, right, and so were there triggers or indicators that were missed. and we have to -- >> boy, there are a lot. >> there were a few. >> but does the background checker that we're describing, simple civilian contractor, are they supposed to look for that? >> well, they're going to go through computer records and through a standard process. but if he's a junior low-level person -- >> they're not checking that