and also led to the situation where workers have essentially no power. right? you have this totally unequal power relationship between the worker and between the employer. i see your organization and others as doing a great job to tie to fill the gap. i wanted to ask you, given the nature of the unequal power dynamic, are workers frequently nervous about joining with your group, about speaking out about conditions they aren't satisfied with or that may be discriminatory or illegal at the work place? are they fearful of getting involved? >> absolutely. workers are -- the that's true throughout the history of the united states. there were times when workers have been afraid to come forward. other times when workers succeed. i would say this is a moment of great opportunity where we are seeing a lot more workers, low wage workers come forward to demand change. we have seen it with the fast food strikes, with our walmart. we have seen it in our own campaigns. workers across the country are