insurance. >> jonathan, it strikes me this is exactly the way we talked about or they talked about how they expected the process to work, right. there would be more of a crush towards the end as we got closer to the deadline. that is bearing itself out. we've now moved away from, you know, the debacle of the initial website rollout. if you take a look, there's a kizer poll that shows americans are pretty sick and tired of this conversation about the affordable care act debate. i think they think there's other issues. i don't disagree with them on that. so is it time to shift the conversation about the affordable care act? >> i think there is time. look, it's going to be in the news. it's going to be part of politics. all over the country, you know, we have groups like americans for prosperity that are pouring tons of money into these ads about people saying, you know, bad things about obamacare. but here on the other hand, we have these stories like the ones you had at the beginning of your segment. these are reality.