triangle park. but today, denial of science, especially climate science, has become a near article of faith amongst republican leaders. and i think it really starts at the top, with governor mccrory. this is a person who worked for 28 years at duke energy. he benefited from the last two campaign cycles, over $1 million in campaign contributions from duke, which is the largest utility in the world. he still owns stock in duke energy, although we're not sure how much. but that interest, that influence that you see from energy interests in the state is reflected at every level of government today, and especially, i think, you saw it in the reaction to one of the biggest coal ash disasters in the country that happened this spring, and inaction from the government, you're seeing from the state government in response to the disaster. >> i'm really interested about the dynamics in this race, between tillis and brannon. i mean, tillis is really part of