going into places, intervening that which we leave behind can become chaotic, it becomes a question of what responsibility does the united states have to be part of that future of a country? this goes to iraq. i've always believed that is as the larger question about benghazi. you understand the political question about benghazi, in many ways, some tried to make it about secretary clinton and her tenure. rand paul, ray run for president in 2016, called it disqualifying for secretary clinton. you have a response for that? >> well, let's go back to the first question, because it's serious. that's not a serious comment, it's sort of a serious question. rand paul -- when ten different instances occurred when president bush was in office where american diplomatic personnel were killed around the world, how many outraged republican members of congress were there? zero. >> most formidable republican who could run for president, in your judgment?