states have a favorable opinion of her. where's the opening? >> and your home city, detroit, michigan, net roots nation will be there. eight years ago net roots nation booed hillary clinton. it was clear there was a path for somebody to her left. joe biden is going to find out today, they'll be polite, but it ain't going to be. >> right. and you hear about the bernie sanders of the world who are trying to pull something together so they can have a voice to push issues. other than an issue-based campaign i think it's very tough to see somebody take a real run at her. >> but the speech stuff, i don't get it. i don't think -- >> no. >> it feels like she's making -- it doesn't feel like somebody is minding the 2016 store for her. >> she's been clumsy throughout her political career when it comes to the campaign. she seems to do well in office but poor on the campaign trail. but here's the thing that i look at the general election race this way, which is, you know, she's going to get a minimum of 47 1/2, 48% of the vote and a maximum of 51.